Dad 2 Dad-Dad Talk: Darrick "Bozzy" Keller
We travel to Bozzy’s hometown of Morganton NC to sit and talk; his band Rainbow Kitten Surprise, life, music, love and the love of being a new Dad. In true Wake. Dad. Drink. Repeat. fashion we have some great laughs and discuss life as we only know how, as rockstars!
How did Rainbow Kitten Surprise start? What is it like being a touring musician as a young dad? What is Bozzy's Today's Dad Definition? What does Rainbow Kitten Surprise have in store in the future? All things we discuss in this Dad 2 Dad-Dad Talk. Enjoy.
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Darrick “Bozzy” Keller
Rainbow Kitten Surprise
Instagram @trickylegskeller
Facebook @darrick bozzy keller
In This Episode:
Drinks:
House coffee @ The Grind Cafe
Key Lime La Croix
RKS:
Rainbow Kitten Surprise
Band Members:
Sam Melo
Darrick “Bozzy” Keller
Ethan Goodpaster
Jess Haney
Charlie Holt
Music:
Rainbow Kitten Suprise (RKS)
RATM - 2020 Tour
WDDR Favorite playlist
Sailboat (all that and more) - RKS
Beatles
Avett Brother
Band of Horses
Caamp
Lyle Lovett
Extras:
ASU
Word Party
Baby Shark
Blippi
Blue Clues
Yurba Mate
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Show Transcript:
Palmer: 00:00:21 Hey everyone, welcome to the Wake. Dad. Drink. Repeat. podcast where today's dad is, might be mad at today's political landscape but is stoked as shit that Rage Against The Machine is coming back on tour. I’m Anthony Palmer and i’m Michael Smith on this week's pod. We have one of our best Dad 2 Dad-Dad Talks yet, ever. We are sitting here currently together, which is always a pleasure, my friend, at The Grind Cafe in Morganton North Carolina and we just got done interviewing Bozzy from Rainbow Kitten Surprise. Amazing conversation one, we are still here in The Grind. They reserved the upstairs for us. Uh, we're the only ones currently sitting in here still drinking our coffee and enjoying the day thus far. But um, Mr. Darrick "Bozzy" Keller, um, founding member for Rainbow Kitten Surprise came and chatted with us. He has a 22 month old daughter who is just adorable.
Michael: 00:01:24 Indie Rose is her name. Madi, his wife and Indie Rose was up here. You'll definitely hear them in the episode as well, but they were, everyone was up here having a party with us for this Dad 2 Dad-Dad Talk. That was our first audience we've had for a show before. So exciting man. We've had, you know, with between the four of our kids, the first, first kid we actually had here what we were recording. So exciting. So, um, it's no secret from Wake. Dad. Drink. Repeat. that we our true honest to God life fans of Rainbow Kitten Surprise what these guys do. Um, for music, what these guys do for lives are, are mind blowing. Um, they're highly impactful music. I it is our Noah, my daughter and I's um, go to go to dance music. I'm inside the house. So, um, we were blessed for this opportunity.
Palmer: 00:02:12 Yeah, I mean just, and it's funny, it's funny how we got here and we get into that in the episode a little bit, but I'm really glad we did. Like just every expectation I had coming into the show was just blown out of the water. I mean, it was just really fun to sit down with Bozzy. It's really, it is something that as we started this show, our hope was that we would kind of level the playing field on the dad side of things, right. That we could cut through no matter what it was that somebody does in their professional life, whatever hat that is, that they were to just really get into the dad piece of it. And this very much did that. Like it was just really normalizing. Yeah. I mean it was really cool to sit here with him and see just his, his like
Palmer: 00:03:00 joy over being a dad, you know, and, and in his, and he gets into it, but in his like unplanned way of doing it. I mean, it was just, it was really great.
Michael: 00:03:09 Such a good dude. Uh, Bozzy thank you again, Madi. Thank you again, um, Indie Rose thank you again for spending your morning with us, she's a treat. It's a fun. Again, we are here at The Grind in Morganton. They're upstairs, there's an entire venue. They book act, they book music acts here. So please, if you're a musician and a want to see a show and or book a show, please check these guys out. Um, thank you. Certainly thank you to the grind. Uh, here at the top of the episode, we want to say review us. Dammit. Uh, your reviews matter, dammit. Please give them to us. It helps us grow our community. It helps us spread our dialogue and grow our audience. Uh, please rate and review us on Apple podcasts and all of our social media platforms. Isn't that right? That is right. All right, let's play the show. Let's play it. Please enjoy Bozzy from Rainbow Kitten Surprise.
Michael: 00:04:03 You're funny. Indy Rose will be on Wake. Dad. Drink. Repeat. star of the show.
Michael: 00:04:10 All right, well we can play this. We are here at The Grind Cafe and a Mornington North Carolina with um, Mr. Darrick "Bozzy" Keller from a Rainbow Kitten Surprise, we're here with you and your wife, Madi and your daughter Indie Rose. Um, thank you guys for being here.
Bozzy: 00:04:25 Thanks for having us. It's a pleasure.
Palmer: 00:04:27 Yeah, we were super pumped to get you guys here. We have, Mike and I have been fans for a while and uh, as anybody who's listened to our early episodes knows we made a playlist of our favorite songs to listen to over their kids. And I think there's multiple RKS songs on that playlist. Absolutely. This is, we are at The Grind Cafe. Yes. Uh, in your hometown, right?
Bozzy: 00:04:53 Born and raised.
Palmer: 00:04:54 Is this a spot you like you guys came to when you were growing up? They've been around that long.
Bozzy: 00:04:58 This, this was the spot, The Grind Cafe. Cool.
Palmer: 00:05:01 It's a really good spot there man. You guys are, you guys are rocking the comfy couch. Indeed. We have the upstairs reserved
Michael: 00:05:06 for us for this interview and thank you to them. Certainly we'll give you a shout out to, but uh, thanks to these guys for letting us into your upstairs venue.
Palmer: 00:05:14 Yeah. So a little background for those listeners that don't know much about Rainbow Kitten Surprise. Um, you guys started in 2013 [inaudible] and you and Sam Melo are the founding members, I guess is the way to put it. Probably.
Bozzy: 00:05:30 Yeah, it all sort of happened relatively quick. You know, like, uh, met Sam outside smoking cigarettes, just hanging out as one does in college. Uh, became friends, just, just hung out. Um, and, uh, one night I didn't even really know he, he wrote music, uh, and one night. He was like, Hey, can I play this song? And uh, and it was, uh, what we now know, Sailboat (all that and more). Oh, that was an early one. So it was after that I was just like, dude, you know, uh, I, I gotta, I gotta grab onto your coattails, like, you know, take me with you. You gotta, you gotta do something with this. Um, so we did, we did an open mic and um, over the next probably six months or so, we added the rest of the guys. We, uh, we all lived in the same dorm, so it was pretty easy. It was like, Oh, I know, I know a guitar player. Oh, I know a drummer, you know,
Palmer: 00:06:23 and that's, that core is still the band that's touring today. That's crazy that you guys just all happened to be in the same dorm and there's that level of talent that is able to propel you guys to where you are.
Bozzy: 00:06:34 It was just honestly like a weird case of like being at the right place at the right time. Honestly. You know, it just, um,
Michael: 00:06:42 did you know, you guys had it like, like whenever you heard and clearly when you approached Sam Melo, you're like, I gotta hop on, but like, was this, there's everybody that has an association with music or plays an instrument. It's like, dude, I'd love to be in a band in college, but like, would that, was that the aspiration at times or were like, when you guys started this, you're like, this has more than that?
Bozzy: 00:07:00 Oh, well, I mean, I guess when we first started at, you know, I just, I liked music. I guess we were just, we were kind of, you know, we were kids, so we were just having fun. I was doing it to be cool, you know? And, uh, I mean, I guess at the time, like I said, we were kids, so I thought we were cooler than what we really were at the time. So, but, but there was a certain point where it was like, wow, this is good. You know, this could be a valid career. Yeah. And kinda just rolled with it.
Michael: 00:07:31 What point was, talk about that growth, like when did it hit that next threshold for you to the point where like these, these aren't dive bars and-or people's dorm rooms or kind of like, when did it hit that next logical point in your mind where like, Oh yeah, this, this is it to the point where it's like a college jobs went away because this is what you guys focused on?
Bozzy: 00:07:53 Well, just the fact that there was, um, like there was more progression than we could keep up with. And what I mean by that is that momentum, like people in Brazil were finding, like we were being like featured on, on podcast and Brazil and, you know, just overseas and, and it was like we were still playing like 200 cap bars in Boone, you know, so it was like this weird, like people, people were asking us to go to places we obviously couldn't get to yet. And so it was like, wow, you know, it was kind of growing and we weren't really doing anything, you know, we just put the music up and, and, uh, we're being lazy in, and then there was a certain point where it was like, wow, we, we, we kinda need to do something with this, you know, so then we hit it full time at that point,
Michael: 00:08:45 the cart before the horse. And you had to catch up to the car. Exactly. Yeah. Pretty much. It's a fortunate place to be and with music. Yeah. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. So talk to me about still your world. Uh, you were a psychology major with hopes of like, let's remove music. You wanted to do what?
Bozzy: 00:09:03 Um, I, I don't really know honestly, honestly, like I sort of hit this point. I don't think anybody knows. Yeah, yeah. I sort of hit this point where, Mmm, I didn't really know what was going to happen, like with music and whatnot. I mean, originally I was an environmental science major. Uh, really wanted to do something with that,
Michael: 00:09:23 hello Indie.
Bozzy: 00:09:25 Um, yeah, there was a certain point where I was like, well, I just kinda want to finish. You know, I had student loans and so it was like, well, psychology is interesting. You know, I liked sociology classes, so I just took a, took a bunch of those classes and got a social science degree.
Palmer: 00:09:41 Do you, this is jumping ahead a little bit, but you said it, so I'm going to run down the rabbit hole. Do you, you said I don't, I didn't really know where things were going to go with music. Does one ever feel like they know where things are going? Like, as you're in a band, as life is marching on, like is there that like anchor or stability in that world for you?
Bozzy: 00:10:03 You know, I mean there's, there's sort of a, you know, I guess you can sort of, um, assess it and, and have an idea, but honestly, in like a weird way, I kind of feel like my life just kinda happens and sure. And I'm like a weird spectator and I'm just sort of here for the ride. I mean, I don't know if other people feel the same way that, but with me it's just, uh, like you can have a direction, but also, you know, life just happens sometimes, you know? Like, like with having a kid, it's like, you know, I maybe thought about being a father one day, but you know, it just sort of happened for us, you know? And, and it was like, okay, well this is the path I'm taking, you know?
Michael: 00:10:46 So, so did you, did you consider yourself kind of a family man? Was that kind of in your life aspirations? Um, of just like, yeah, I'm gonna, I'll be a dad. Yeah, I'll have a kid.
Bozzy: 00:10:57 Yeah. I mean, I think that's sort of just told myself that I, I, um, it wasn't really, I guess a part of my everyday aspiration, so to speak. Um, yeah. But honestly, no, I didn't like have plans to, you know, I didn't, I didn't like tell myself that, but I always sort of [inaudible] I felt like I would.
Palmer: 00:11:18 Yeah. It's not that I'm going to have a white picket house or white, you know, white house, white picket fence and three kids and it's more of just maybe so subtle. I'll probably go down that road at some point.
Bozzy: 00:11:29 Maybe someday I'll have kids, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. But we'll see where life takes me. Right? Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Michael: 00:11:35 So, um, this isn't just like a, a music podcast. This is a dad podcast. So you met Madi. How, where, so how did, how did that journey start for you guys?
Bozzy: 00:11:50 Um, sorta, just mutual friends, you know, like Boone is, is a somewhat small town. It's a small college. Um, and actually, uh, the lead singer, Sam Melo was a dance major. Madi was a dance major. So they, they knew each other from that. Um, we also had some other mutual friends that sort of set us up. We had a friend Alex, who basically told Madi that I had a crush on her and then, and then he told me that Madi had a crush on me. So like was it real or was it just like fabricated and attempts of making you guys, they're somewhat fabricated I think. I think he saw maybe a potential match there. But uh, I don't know if you just knew this guy you, you had, he's a funny dude, you know, had, uh, so he was sort of the matchmaker for right, exactly. Make it happen.
Michael: 00:12:38 That's funny. So when you guys, you guys, when did you guys get married?
Bozzy: 00:12:43 Uh, 2017.
Michael: 00:12:46 Sorry, I didn't mean to put you on the spot there.
Bozzy: 00:12:47 No you're fine, Madi was it 2017?. We got married 2016? Drawing a blank. When did we get married? It's been a year and a half basically. Okay, fair enough. That's cool. Geez, you'll have to edit this part out.
Palmer: 00:13:05 No, that's real life right there.
Bozzy: 00:13:08 I'm like, geez, when did we get married?
Michael: 00:13:09 So, so pre qualifiers you guys are married? Yes. All right. All right. Fantastic. So at that time were you like, let's, was that part of your, your family goals? Like you guys got married and you guys knew you wanted to have kids. This is like post the college conversation. Like this is, you meet Madi, you guys get married and you're like let kids are in our picture.
Bozzy: 00:13:30 I mean to be honest with you, it happened more like a, well we have a kid now. We should probably be married.
Michael: 00:13:37 It was the inverse role. All right,
Bozzy: 00:13:39 you're going to be with this girl. Like I love this girl and I'm going to be with her taking care of a child no matter what. Might as well have a, a solid family unit, you know? Yep. Awesome. Sort of that untraditional. There's a,
Palmer: 00:13:56 if there's, if there's anything to learn in life, it's that there is no such thing as traditional. Traditional is going down. The whole side of things. I mean, I've got my, my oldest, my daughter was, my wife's from a first marriage. I met her when she was two and, and the only dad she's ever known, you know, so I mean, and it's awesome. She's, mine is, mine is, she could be, and we've got our son and I mean it's, but it's, you don't think of it any differently, right. It's just like, Oh yeah. I mean there's no, there's no, there's no normal anymore. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it, it makes it, I think that's what makes families, you love your kids as a parent and that's what matters. Right. At the end of the day, the story of how and whatever it doesn't, it doesn't matter as much anymore.
Michael: 00:14:44 So who you growing up, who were your musical influences, um, that really latched on to you and you're musically or quite frankly, as a, as a person?
Bozzy: 00:14:54 Uh, you know, I, I have, you know, quite a few, I guess at different stages in my lab, definitely sort of, uh, the artists that influenced me in like a transitional stage in my life. Like when I was starting to sing and, and starting to play guitar, like, uh, the Beatles were a big one, you know? Sure. You know, would, would sing Beatles songs, but honestly the, the Avett Brothers was a huge one, you know, cause they were, they were from North Carolina. It was like I could, I could sing it with a, with a Southern accent and it would be cool, you know, you know, uh, so that they were, they like the Band of Horses was a big one.
Palmer: 00:15:33 I love Band of Horses, I love Avett Brothers yeah.
Bozzy: 00:15:37 Sort of like that. Americana, you know, rock. Yeah. Likewise the category, that's not a category.
Michael: 00:15:42 Right. It's still evolving, man. I remember. I, it's, it's no fair to Avett Brothers. Um, but like probably, I don't know, 10 years ago or so, um, I heard them back when I lived in Knoxville. Yeah. They were on the radio and um, right when I & Love & You came out and handed the stupid radio, DJ was like, all right, that was the Avett Brothers. And like, I just yelled in, my car was like, you asshole. So it wasn't fair. I remember when we were, we were in Louisville, Kentucky, um, visiting, my mom's from up there, so we've got a lot of family there. And my dad, my dad is so weird about music. Sometimes he'll just like go buy random stuff, which works out well. Right. Cause you sometimes find a winner and it was like one of the Avett's, it's like original, like EPS or something, you know. But I think it had I & Love & You on it. But like, I don't, I can't remember what song was that was on it, but it was this, you know, CD that we listened to on the car ride home and we were like, man, Dad and i were like, this is great. This is great. This is great. And then I remember like a year or two later when I & love & You got big and they Avett, it really got some steam. My dad being like, I just covered them.
Michael: 00:16:50 He's like, hold up. Wait, wait a minute. So who, Um Indie Rose. Who do you hope like shapes her? Like what do you I want my daughter to listen to whatever she wants to, like when she grows up now she listens to garbage. Um, but right now, like what do you hope inspires your kids if there ends up being more kids? Um, growing up musically, how do you hope they latch onto music as a concept and then music style?
Bozzy: 00:17:19 Um, I mean, I guess there's no set way. I mean, I guess, I mean, people just consume music differently now, you know, with like streaming and, um, so it's hard for me to really answer that question I guess. I mean really anything that sort of touches their soul, you know, and makes her want to sing and makes her want to feel. Um, do you guys do a lot of music at home? Like, is it, are you, are you kinda like music doubt at home? Well, recently happened. I mean, I don't think anyone could ever stop Indy from singing. Yeah. She's, she's into it. Yeah. She, she loves singing. So, you know, I guess just whatever, um, makes her feel, you know, feel emotion, feel, felt love.
Palmer: 00:18:03 That is like, I think one of the coolest things we just, we just started all over in Kindermusik this past week, but that little dude is like an eight. My, my older Anderson, she's very musically inclined and I think probably talented to some extent. Like, it's really fun watching these little ones, like when they get in or they get a shaker in their hand or something, man. And they're just like, there's a rhythm that they're tapping out in his head and they're going crazy. And it's like, that is cool. Like,
Bozzy: 00:18:27 all right, I'll give Indie like a, a little shaker and a kazoo. Yeah, it's hilarious, dude. I mean, we'll just run around the house and seeing that because.
Palmer: 00:18:38 we're big harmonica people loves the hermana in our house with a little nice. Hurts my dogs here. [inaudible] shit. But it's great. Bad parenting or good parenting.
Michael: 00:18:48 So what, uh, we ask our guests to kind of fill out a form before we do these interviews. And you, you mentioned that, uh, your parents bought you a guitar when you were a kid. Um, when is, is that because you wanted one in, wanted to get into that concept or is that because like your parents are like, Oh, I want some formality for my kid? Or how did that originate?
Bozzy: 00:19:11 No. So I mean, to be completely honest, um, that was sort of a transitional period of my life when I was going to a new school, uh, basically all new friends and, and so starting to listen to different music cause that's what my friends were doing. You know, they're like, Hey, listen to this band or this band. And so it was, it was sort of a transitional point in my life. And, and I had some, I had a friend who played guitar, I had a friend who played drums, had a friend who played bass. It was like, dude, you should, you should play guitar, you know, like, so it was like, alright, cool, I'll, I'll hang out with you guys and play guitar, you know. So it was, yeah. Um, honestly just cut, trying to do it to be cool and fit in with my friends, you know. Um, and, uh, my parents supported it, you know.
Palmer: 00:19:58 Did you grow up in, uh, were your parents musical? Did you grow up in a musical household or
Bozzy: 00:20:02 to an extent, I mean, um, definitely I was in like children's choir and the church and my mom was in the choir and so it was, you know, very uh, contained to the church. Of course we had to wait a little keyboard at the house and yeah. Um, nothing like too structured or anything like that. But there was, there was music around.
Palmer: 00:20:23 Yeah. I think that's, I always find that interesting how much it, I think we've talked about this in a past episode, like just how much that one actually passes down. Right? Like the more musically inclined, not even necessarily talented that you're playing an instrument, but the more music that's played in a house, how that seems to always influence down the line, the generations and whatever. I mean, our house is constantly filled with it and I just think it's a good, you, you want it to there all the time to be a thing but not be a thing.
Michael: 00:20:49 Like you didn't want your kids not to take it for granted, but it to be in their day to day lives so much that it's not like a forced, what I don't want is for my kids to feel forced to take piano lessons and then grow to spite something. I want it to be so ingrained in a day to day to the point where they organically say I want this or buy me a guitar or something of that to the point where it's, it's a thread of who they are because they don't know any better because it's so much of their lives. Um, that, that's my goal.
Bozzy: 00:21:20 So does playing, you know, music playing in the background or music being played in the background but not being shoved down their throat of course.
Michael: 00:21:30 So do you know the scale that this song, the song is in the key key a G um, yeah. I don't, I don't need to get so mathy on it, um, more so than just, uh, let it be the feel that'd be the personality of, brings in emotions that it brings out for the kids.
Bozzy: 00:21:44 I think in our house and that's not an issue. You know what I mean? Me and Madi are always listening to music and, and um, you know, Indie will just come in into the room and just dance, you know, or, or sing. So it's not, I think it's, it's something that, that is a part of our, our life. But I would never, you know, I mean, maybe someday we'll sit down and try to learn music, but it's not like I'm not gonna like force her to go to music lessons or anything like that, you know?
Palmer: 00:22:11 Do you, um, you're talking about being home and whatnot. So right now you guys are not on tour. Um, so your home, so kind of transitioning into that side of the conversation, I guess you're, you get to be a stay at home dad now, right? I mean, are you, you're.
Michael: 00:22:30 welcome to a table, a stay at home dads, right?
Bozzy: 00:22:34 That's the gig now. Right?
Michael: 00:22:36 Right now it is pretty cool. Yeah. I'm sure that is a change of pace. I'm allowed to be here because my wife is working from home today. Palmer is allowed to be here because why, what allowed you to be out of the house? Michelle actually has today off. Oh, very good. Very good. When you are the full time stay at home dad and a working spouses, it's a, it's hard to, to play the other side. It's hard to get out of the house. When you
Bozzy: 00:22:59 guys left for this past tour that you guys just finished up when, when was that? If you remember. That was, jeez. Um, so why don't we start that tour, Madi? He's, everything just happens to us. So we've been on tour for about a month. He ends up in the air and it was a three week tour, so, you know, jeez.
Palmer: 00:23:22 So it wasn't, I guess in my mind I was thinking it was probably a couple months, but it wasn't, it was a smaller period of time.
Bozzy: 00:23:28 It was a smaller tour.
Palmer: 00:23:30 where I was going to go with that is how much has Indie Rose changed from, but still three weeks at 20 something months as well. And it's a big gap.
Bozzy: 00:23:38 The tour before that was two months. So, um, yeah. You know, we were trying to, to do it and you know, um, man chunk, chunk, manageable chunks that are, you know, easy, easy to manage.
Palmer: 00:23:51 But does the crew come with you on the road? The girls come with you, your girls come with you on the road?
Bozzy: 00:23:57 They come to some shows. I mean Madi works too. It's like she has today off, which is, you know, makes it, makes it easy to come meet you guys here. Um, thanks for spending your day off with us. So, so basically, you know, it shows that she can easily travel to, you know, she's been all the way to Seattle to see us out there, but it's not always easy to, you know,
Palmer: 00:24:23 when you, when you guys are sorry, when, when you guys are on the road and you're traveling in there and they get to come with you, I'm sure that's a big relief, I guess to some extent having the girls there with you and not being away from them. Um, but something I'm like, I was super curious about when we were going to sit down and talk with you when you guys aren't sound checking and setting up and whatever. Like are you, are you in dad mode? Absolutely. Hang out and do that kind of stuff. Are you,
Bozzy: 00:24:48 it's, it's kind of a weird sensation cause it's like it's hard to flip that switch at the beach. I can imagine that would be really hard.
Michael: 00:24:57 Are you, you're, you're the only dad in the band, right? Yes. Is that, is that a dynamic that's, could you feel a dynamic shift like being or becoming the only dad cause you go off and be dad? I don't know what everybody else does when it's not job.
Bozzy: 00:25:14 I don't know if this answers answers your question, but uh, I mean I'm sort of and sort of in a way always happen the data, that group. Sure. The weird like a weird way. Uh, so it, I guess that switch never fully gets flipped off. Um, and it can be somewhat challenging, you know, honestly when their shows to, to manage both sides of that.
Palmer: 00:25:41 But it's always worth it, you know? Yeah. I mean, I would imagine the payoff of having them there is huge. Um, but I, I can't, I can't wrap my head around, you know, that. So my wife's an ER doc and when she's at work, she's at work. Right. But when she's home, she's home. Like there's no, there's no emails, there's no whatever. Like she's on her, she's off. Right. Mike and I don't get the luxury of being on or off with the podcast and then with our other businesses that we have on the side, because we do them out of the house, but it's very much like, we fit, we fit our job around the family. Right. It's like it's pulling those stay at home dad hours of nine to 11 or 5:00 AM in the morning or whatever with you. I mean, there's no, like if your family's with you on the road, I would imagine your family's with you on the road. And then it's like, all right, dad's gotta to go play for a couple of hours, like a night. I love ya.
Bozzy: 00:26:34 And that, that's sort of how it has to be to an extent, you know, like, but, but like I said, you can't, it's, it's hard to, there's still that little piece of your brain that's, that's lit up. And it was like, Hey dude, you know, your daughter's out there somewhere, you know, your wife's out there. Um, it, it kind of all meshes together. Yeah. It's, it's, I'm very blessed.
Palmer: 00:26:56 I think that's really, I think that's really cool. And I think it would be, I'd be interested to see as your, your bandmates develop in their life, if, if others have kids along the way. Like how much of that that changes is you guys have families on your tour or on the road with the, you know, how much tax, you know, that changes.
Michael: 00:27:18 So I had, um, I was telling Madi, um, when we were setting all this up, my, um, the reason you guys came to mind other than us, like trying not to fanboy for you guys, but my wife and I were, um, I forgot about this? My wife and I saw you guys, um, the last time you played at the Orange Peel in Asheville and my wife and I were standing outside before they would let us in, um, a huge line of people and Madi and Indie parked in front of the tour bus and it was, Madi was actually getting Indie Rose out of the car and she was like very mom mode. But I, but I could also tell like you were part, I didn't know who you were. I was like, but you were like behind the cone. So, so the cone made me realize, I was like, ah, this is a wife and I, and I knew Bozzy was the only one with a kid. And so I was like, Oh, this is fantastic. And then my wife and I were just talking like this is that, that's actually what sparked this whole conversation. I was like, man, you are life conversation. It's awesome. And then Madi later told me that that was in his very first concert ever.
Bozzy: 00:28:20 It was, she was very small. What was she, three months?
Michael: 00:28:25 And when she at that show, yeah, that's awesome. Is that that show where she backstage or did you guys come out at all? You were out. How, how was that?
Palmer: 00:28:32 Oh, that's fun.
Michael: 00:28:33 Onstage or your daughter with a big light and not, not that. She was like, I am you intently. She was three months old, but like was that cool to play for your kid the very first time?
Bozzy: 00:28:42 It was, it was really weird sensation. Um, cause I still, you know, was in that new dad mode where you're still like, I guess kinda relearning how to live. I don't, I don't know an amount. You don't know. It was overwhelming. Right, exactly. And your only comfort is knowing that you know nothing. [inaudible] you're just, you're just praying that you don't screw something up, accept it. Um, so that was sort of that first experience where those two lives, you know, intermingled. Yeah, it was cool. It was awesome.
Michael: 00:29:16 You're hoping you didn't fall. That's awesome. That's cool.
Bozzy: 00:29:20 Like you said, is it too loud? Are they okay? Are they too hot? Does Madi need water? Is Indie okay? Is she asleep? Is she breathing?
Michael: 00:29:29 I missed that chord progression. Dammit. That's funny. So describe a, did this last tour, I guess would have been, um, the only time this might've applied to, but like describe two weeks for you. Um, how often do you get to see your ladies? How often, if they're not with you, do you go home and, sorry, do you go back and like Skype, uh, four times a day? Or like what, what's a day to day operation for you? Um, when you're, you're on the bus.
Bozzy: 00:30:01 So, you know, I guess actually seeing them physically would, would really depend on, uh, what shows they could make it out to. Right. Um, North Carolina shows are obviously easier than, you know, West coast shows. Yeah. Um, but I, I'd say an average like two, three week tour, you know, it's, it's, we have a show, you know, at least two shows every three days, that sort of thing. Um, and it, you know, we, we Skype a lot and yeah. And, uh, she fills me in on, on life and I feel her hand on my life. And, um, yeah, I mean basically I'm, I'm in that, you know, in that touring mode, but at the end of the day I'm like, I need to call my wife and you say, see how Andy's doing, you know, check in.
Palmer: 00:30:53 Um, you guys, you ended this last tour at the red rocks. Yeah. How cool was that?
Bozzy: 00:31:04 It was awesome. I mean it's still in a weird way. Still doesn't feel real. Yeah.
Michael: 00:31:12 Like are you still living that, are you still in the wow phase? Yeah. In trajectory. You guys are on it.
Bozzy: 00:31:19 Like a denial, you know? Uh, uh, it was such a surreal experience, you know, seeing 10,000 people and just being at Red Rocks. Yeah. Also having that weird, I must feel like I cheated the system a little bit cause I've never actually seen a show at Red Rocks, so I feel like I'm cheating a little bit, but did that backwards too. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, it's, it's crazy. It's awesome.
Palmer: 00:31:46 You guys did I see. And I, I mean, I don't know cause I wasn't clearly going to buy tickets to go out to a red rock show. But you guys, were you, were you touring with Caamp for that show or was that just you guys or, um, well I saw something on Instagram but I can't, yeah.
Bozzy: 00:32:01 Well, you know, Caamp is good friends of ours and we've toured a good bit together and so it, it, it felt right to have him come in and have that experience. That's cool, you know. Yeah. That's really cool.
Michael: 00:32:14 Um, so this being like time off phase for you guys. Um, and you were saying that you guys are going to work on a new album, come new year. Um, how does, what does work look like when it's not on the road? What does, what does more or less studio time as I would imagine, however you guys are kind of sprinkled around the area. So how does work look like?
Bozzy: 00:32:37 So, um, uh, you know, certain small amount of working from home. So, uh, you know, Sam Melo, Sam Melo will be writing songs and sending them out and we'll be listening. Um, that's the part I can do from home. Yeah. You know, with, um, you know, and, and still hanging out with the girls, but then, uh, fly out to Nashville a lot. Uh, that's, I guess that's the studio part of it. You know, we're, we'll record in the studio or practice. Um, and that, that takes up a good amount of time.
Michael: 00:33:13 Makes sense. Where's everybody sprinkled around? Is it, are they Nashville based or, okay.
Bozzy: 00:33:17 Everybody is in Nashville.
Palmer: 00:33:18 Got it. Oh wow. So you're, you're, you're a lone soldier hanging out in North Carolina and.
Bozzy: 00:33:22 I'm the Lemo.
Palmer: 00:33:25 There's nothing wrong with that. I, I could, I could probably do without living in Nashville. I was there, man. I like, no, I want the very town.
Bozzy: 00:33:33 Yeah. I want to, um, I just, uh, trying to figure things out and, and make that move. Yeah. That's a big jump. Yeah, it is. Especially you guys are saying you've got family around here, so we have roots here. So, you know, it's, it's, yeah.
Palmer: 00:33:51 I would imagine as anyone who is playing the parent card where one is in and out a lot, you know, that family is a huge piece of the day in and day out operations, right? You guys are able to lean on family whenever Madi's working. Um,
Bozzy: 00:34:08 it's such a blessing, truly, you know, to have to have family and be like, Hey, you know, can we go get a dinner together? Just us sometimes to be able to just drop the kid off and, and take a breath is, have a date really of less important to important to say the least.
Michael: 00:34:25 Crazy not to, not to take that for granted. So what, um, what is on the horizon for two parts, one for the band and then two for you. Um, what, what do you have coming up in the future?
Bozzy: 00:34:41 So with the band, you know, as we've talked about, um, uh, start in the top of this this coming year, we'll start working on new music and hopefully get that out when it's, when it's ready. Um, can't really give a time. You know, it just depends. But, uh, the process, it's really exciting. I'm really releasing music and, and then tour on that, um, is personally, you know, I think we've been building a home in North Carolina. Um, I, I think, I think we're ready to make that transition to Nashville just sort of trying to save up and, and, uh, prepare ourselves, I guess mentally as well. Um, yeah. So it's, it's sort of a, a time for us to relax and, and then we'll, we'll grow later.
Palmer: 00:35:34 Yeah. That's really, I, there's so many moving pieces in your all's world, I guess behind the scenes that, um, I would imagine as you were saying, is kind of being the dad of the band as well. I mean, that's, that's probably a lot to, to, to shoulder when you're not with the rest of your crew. Right? Like there's a lot of, there's just a ton going on in the background there. Um, I would imagine it's probably hard at times being home and not letting your mind go there right now.
Bozzy: 00:36:07 Yeah. And, and I, I sorta try to separate that, but, but then when you get back to Nashville, it's, it's, you always kinda feel like you miss something, but I mean you, you really didn't, everyone fills you in and you're, you're back to it. But, you know, it's, it can be hard being totally separated from that experience.
Palmer: 00:36:26 Is that something that you feel like your, your bandmates um, I keep saying bandmates and that feels weird to me to say that. I don't know why it seems like, but is that, um, like are they, I'm assuming everybody's like cool with that and probably appreciates like where you are in your life and it's like good for you.
Bozzy: 00:36:44 Everyone's so supportive. You know, I've honestly been really blessed, you know, to have the guys in my life so well and I'm sure that your girls are, I mean, I'm sure it's like one big ass family, just a whole bunch. We live, we literally are just a big ass family, you know, cause they, they totally understand. Like if I'm like, yo, I need a little bit of time at home, they, they get it. You know? And, and, um, you know, we make it work. Yeah. I'm sure that's really important to.
Michael: 00:37:14 pull the long timeline for Rainbow Kitten Surprise. What do you want Rainbow Kitten Surprise to be? To be known for?
Bozzy: 00:37:22 Hmm. Rainbow Kitten Surprise be known for? Yeah. Um, well I, I've had definitely liked that we're, uh, I don't want to compare us to Queen, you know, cause I totally not, I ain't been in that same thing. [inaudible] is that like, I don't even want to put us in that category cause they're just gods. But I mean, like, I, I liked the idea of being sort of a rock band with, you know, solid harmonies and, and, and uh, but also like, uh, I want to be that band and I think we sort of have been where it's, genre bending, you know, it's hard to classify. Like our next album probably won't sound like our last out, you know?
Bozzy: 00:38:12 Great. I like that, you know? Awesome. And your last album was fantastic, but I said great because I can't wait to see what else you guys can come up with because it's so, yeah. I mean that is, that is one of the greatest things about you all is like just that talent is raw. I mean it is so everything is so different but it's complex. But it's like easy to jam too. I went, I mean I did a longer than I wanted to trail run on Saturday and had you guys on for the first hour and a half and was just like lost in my mind with it and it was perfect. It was exactly what I needed, you know? But it was like, it was just, I was, I was like, I'll, I was super pumped up rather than listening to it the whole time. Cause it's just good music.
Bozzy: 00:38:54 I think musically that that's what I want. You know, I also want to say that just, just socially speaking, I sort of want to be that band that is, our shows especially is a safe place for people you know, that they can go to and they're not worried about, you know, being who they are or you know, anything like that. Yeah, everyone's welcome. You know, it's like, it's like, you know, you have a frat boy that's jam and next to a trans person, you know, and everybody's just having a great time. That's, that's what I love about it. You guys have that. Yeah. You own it.
Palmer: 00:39:30 You guys do. I mean, and I think that's something that's really, um, coming from the, from the dad perspective with it. That's something I'm really interested in of like you guys, you guys definitely stand for equality, gay rights, all that, which is just fantastic. There's, I love that societaly we're at a spot where it's, that is becoming more present. Right? Um, and Mike was saying before we recorded and I think he put it, he puts it really well and he says it, I'm like, it's, it'll be great when it's not a conversation anymore, but because it is still kind of a conversation, one of the things that I'm curious about is as a dad, you know, when this little one is old enough to kind of have some cognitive thoughts about just norms, the standards of a relationships. And I, I hate to even use those words that way, but like that's what a great opportunity you're going to have. Just the, she's going to have grown up with there not being this bias or the standard of what a relationship, what love looks like. I mean, that's, is that something that you've thought about at all or is it just more of like she's not old enough to be there yet so it doesn't have to be a fight.
Bozzy: 00:40:40 I have thought about it because you know, most, most of the feelings or aggression that people have are, have been taught to them, you know, or they've experienced, you know, it happening to someone that they know or whatnot. And so I think, think with Indie, it might be something that we might not even have to talk about because it will, she'll have grown up with it. It's such a different world than I may have, you know? Right. Um, and so they, maybe someday we'll have a conversation, but I, I'm not too worried about it, you know, because the world and the society we live in has a lot of work. Yeah. Still to go, but, but I think, I think we have a good trajectory and, and um, things will hopefully get better, you know.
Palmer: 00:41:30 Well, and I commend you guys on, it's always, it's always one thing to know your lane and then it's another thing to like own your lane. And I was in, in preparing to sit down with you, I was looking at just some different interviews you guys have done. And there was one on, it was like the CBS morning show I think it was Sam Melo remind me of the bass players name, Charlie Holt Charlie Holt. Like it was the two of them sitting down and talking and the interviewer asked them about kind of being, I forget the wording he used, but basically like being the, this flag bearer for, for gay rights or whatever. And it's really funny, Sam Melo looked over at Charlie Holt and he's like, I mean when we started, I don't know that we thought about it, but this guy's wearing fishnet sitting next to me now. You know? And it was just this like, and it was just, it was perfectly said and whatever of, it's like, that's just it. And there's not a, there's not a care about it. It doesn't seem like you guys are doing it because of that, because of where you all are and who you guys are. You get to be that standard bear. And that's just, I just think that's really cool.
Bozzy: 00:42:30 And I think that that is, you know, Sam Melo said it perfectly, it is something that we just don't, it's not like a conscious thing always churning in her mind. No. It's just if Charlie's wearing fishnet, she's wearing fishnet. So you know is that's what it is.
Palmer: 00:42:48 Yeah. I just think that's the, the not thinking about it is where I hope like societal, I keep saying societaly. I don't know if I'm saying that right. I think I'm butchering it, but culturally, culturally that like, I hope that that's where we get to as a culture of just, we'll get there. You're not thinking about it. You know, and I think for your daughter's sake, for our kids' sakes, hopefully we get there.
Michael: 00:43:12 You'll, you'll be talking to Indie about it in the framing of this is the way we used to be as the history. Yeah. It won't be a, this is what you're trying to stand for. It will be, this is what is true. This is what the world is now and this is what we used to do. We don't want to do. Right. You know? Yeah, exactly right.
Palmer: 00:43:32 I just think, I think that's awesome. And truly, I mean, not that you guys need to hear kudos from us, but I sure that's kudos to you guys.
Michael: 00:43:42 So, so you told us what you want Rainbow Kitten Surprise to be known for. What do you want Indie to think about Rainbow Kitten Surprise? Like what do you want your kids to think about your band? I mean, I think other than that, that's my dad's work. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair.
Bozzy: 00:44:06 I want to make anyone I love proud, you know? Um, I obviously don't like, I wouldn't want it to like hear RKS and just be like, Ugh, dad. But that's probably what would have players. Ah, uh, I don't know. I don't really know how to answer that question. I mean, I, I've, I mean I want her to love me. I wanted be proud of me. Yeah. I don't really know. It's hard for me to think about that cause she's just a little, little baby right now.
Palmer: 00:44:38 Well, and she's yours independent of your career, your music, whatever. Right. But I think there is something to the, to have them blended. Yep, yep. Yeah. And there's something to that level of, I mean, you're, you're famous. I mean, that's, you guys are famous and there's, there's growing up with, in that world of like letting your daughter you know, your kid's going to be aware of that to some extent, but then also like you still being dad, right? Like, it doesn't, it doesn't matter, um, on, on that scale. Nice. She's a cute, he just, I just fist bumped her, this is our, we're Epic. We're, this is what our, like 18th or 19th episode we've recorded. It's our first one with a kiddo with us the whole time and she's better behaved than any of ours, but I'll speak to you soon. Excellent. Actually,
Michael: 00:45:30 you said in your form that you filled out for us, that you, you'd love to be on a movie like, or, or a TV show. What do you ma, did you like, do you imagine you like a cameo just running by with a gun or something or like as a librarian?
Bozzy: 00:45:45 I honestly, uh, I don't think I'd be good at acting. I just want to say that I did it. You just want to, it's like a checkbox for it. Like maybe be a trucker in a movie because would be kind of cool. Can you jockey the one one shot at like a truck stop or maybe get murdered or something? Cameo style. Not like extensive dialogue that you gotta go. I don't think I could remember like an extensive amount of dialogue, but.
Palmer: 00:46:10 you think you can talk to the band doing a music video of like you just as a truck driver the whole time in a music video. I think that would work.
Bozzy: 00:46:17 I could entertain that. Check that box. Like literally just like in a truck driving down 40 the whole time with the trucker hat. I like it.
Palmer: 00:46:27 If you guys do that, I can, we can probably help to produce it. I think. I think we have, I think we have the ability to do that. I don't know. We're going to find a truck. Yeah, it's funny.
Michael: 00:46:37 So as we do here, our goal for Wake. Dad. Drink. Repeat. or our objective is just to continually define Today's Dad. So give us your definition of, um, what it means to you. Um, what the definition of Today's Dad is,
Palmer: 00:46:58 but hold one second. Oh really? You're going to do that? Move it up a little bit cause that's like hardcore crotch shot.
Bozzy: 00:47:06 today's day. Today's big daddy. Yeah.
Bozzy: 00:47:26 I think, Today's Dad, uh, defies gender even, you know, you have single mothers all, all across the world. Um assuming the role as a father and in some cases fathers, assuming the role as the mother. I think today's dad is just being a protector and provider, um, of your children. And I'm in a modern world, you know, I mean w like, like we've talked about in this podcast, a lot of changes culturally had been happening in technologically and I think just sort of trying to adapt and always keep your kids safe and loved in today's world is, is what it means to be a dad in today's world.
Michael: 00:48:13 I clap for that one. Yeah, I like that one. I haven't clapped for any of them before. I like that one a lot. It's pretty Epic. Madi, do you agree with that definition? Do you want to interject on that definition? That's a good one. Yeah. You guys pregame that. That's pretty good. See you read your script. That was a good flow Naturally it did. It didn't do dictating or anything, man. It might chop it up a little bit. The trucker hat. It's fine. That's cool.
Palmer: 00:48:47 What I like about those as the more of these that we do, like, it's funny how, and I've said this on previous episodes, it's funny how similar they are, but it's also funny how they're getting a little more like leggy. Like we're getting a lot more branches coming off of them and, and it's, it's, it's amazing how specific they are to the industry or the world that our guests live in. Yeah. Um, yeah, but it's, this is like my favorite part of the show that we do. I love that part. It's good. Um, cool. So after we, uh, Indie is going to be a singer and you know, it, um, let's start some rapid fire questions. Uh, they are scared, incredibly simplistic. This should not intimidate you. Um, except do you have to do a little bit of a improv class here a little bit. So you are going to have to act. This is not meant to be choreographed or anything.
Michael: 00:49:42 Um, what is your biggest lesson you have learned as a dad?
Bozzy: 00:49:48 Biggest lesson I've learned as a dad is, uh, honestly, honestly. Yeah. Well, I mean, not honestly, no. But honestly, no. I mean, I, I, I think I've just, I don't really know if this is a lesson, but I've gained a lot of respect for my parents. You know, uh, I guess the lesson would be to, to listen to your parents, you know what I mean? Uh, yeah. I mean, just, you know, with, with like Madi's childbirth and whatnot. I mean, I learned what it means to be a mother and what it means to be a parent. And it just, that just changed my perspective on life, you know, and I, I view my own parents way differently now and that is definitely, they don't really know. You don't really know if that's a lesson per se, but I think that very much is what popped in my, my brain places. And you're just like, Oh, I'm wrong. I've been wrong. This whole, sorry. Sorry guys. Sorry mom. I was an asshole. It's not realizing this.
Palmer: 00:50:53 All right. Most annoying song show movie, whatever that indie Rose has made you listen to over listen to her watch over a thousand times
Bozzy: 00:51:03 Oh, you know what it is Madi. Is it Word Party? Our [inaudible] party. It's horrible word party. And that word is fun. I mean, honestly, I kind of jam a little bit to baby shark. It's just the. Yes, exactly. It's just that, it's the point I'm like, this is not good old tea. Yeah. You know baby Shark it's exactly what all he does. Uh, uh, dark dude, dude. Word party's horrible. Yeah. And like for some weird reason she liked like I get baby shark ok. It's kind of catchy and it's cute, but it's just like word party. Just the Panda creeps me out a little bit. I feel the same way about the elephant achievements in like he was, it was his attempt of animating the Teletubbies.
Palmer: 00:52:08 Yeah. Yes. I don't know. The panic creeps me out. That's fair.
Madi: 00:52:15 What's Blippy yeah, she's watching it right now
Bozzy: 00:52:22 I don't know. I of like get it's, it's like, Oh, he goes, Oh yeah. Yeah. Kind of the animated guy that runs around and like kids inflatable toy sorta reminds me of like a new, like, are you guys familiar with blues clues? Like I watched that grow. It's sort of like figured out. I can't get male singing this male song every day is the mail. It never fails. It kind of reminds me of a new new blues clues. Yeah.
Michael: 00:52:54 But YouTube, yeah. Yeah. Not some syndicated lunch. Yeah. Gonna avoid that one for now. Is that my favorite thing to do with your kids? Watch word party?
Bozzy: 00:53:07 Absolutely. Every day for hours? No. Um, honestly, uh, would just like to go on walks, you know, Indie get fussy or go on car rides is a good one too. Yeah. Um, she calmed down like in cars, just something to sorta change the scenery. Uh, and, and calm her down and sort of, it kind of puts us in a different, uh, mind space to, you know, to like if, if you've been cooped inside all day, just like grab this stroller, go for a walk and you'll get some fresh air. Maybe she'll take a nap or take a drive, you know? Yeah.
Palmer: 00:53:43 Um, drink of choice.
Bozzy: 00:53:48 Yurba Mate for caffeinated beverages or Key Lime La Croix
Michael: 00:53:55 solid. Yeah. You told us key lime. La Croix so we brought you a case of Key lime La Croix you have on the table.
Bozzy: 00:54:01 I just thought on the drive over here I was like, man, should've said Yerba Marta regrets. Nothing but regrets.
Michael: 00:54:08 Um, best part of being a dad.
Bozzy: 00:54:11 Best part is just being able to look at that little booger and hold her, um, and, and watch her grow, you know,
Palmer: 00:54:21 solid. That's a great answer. Super good answer too. Cause your wife's sitting here. So that definitely like hardcore bonus points. Um, and our, our last rapid fire question for you is what trade of your own do you hope that Indie Rose or our future kids inherit and model of yours.
Bozzy: 00:54:39 probably my, uh, I don't really know how, how to my preparedness. Uh, hopefully she gets that from me and not her mother.
Michael: 00:54:57 Madi, thank you for all the conversations we've had to set this up. I just want that to be known that it was because of you. Bozzy man, you got like closing statements. You want to talk about something. Do you want to give dad advice to the world? Do you like have anything that you want to talk about that we didn't talk about? Like, man, I really hope they ask me this but I didn't or this is my time to address this in life and
Bozzy: 00:55:19 Oh man. Um, let me see. Oh, you taught you would have her sit in the car. Come on. I've
Madi: 00:55:28 Just like whenever we first found out we were pregnant. What? You were like, I have to quit the band.
Bozzy: 00:55:32 Oh, I see. I should, I should have wrote all that. Oh, that's that.
Michael: 00:55:38 That would've been like a good question. Like, dude, you, you, your wife's pregnant. How was that? Yeah. She should be a boilerplate question from us. Do you need, you need another job? So, so when Madi here, hang on, let me ask, this is just organic. So when Madi found out she was pregnant, what happened? So I'm just going to leave this man.
Bozzy: 00:56:00 Please do. Please do this. Is, this is all Madi here No. Uh, so, so when we found out she was pregnant, you know, we were in Washington state and it was just like, I kind of had this moment where it was like, dang, do I have to quit the band? You know, like I, I, I, it hadn't dawned on me that like, you could do both these things, you know? Well, not obviously they could be dad, but just, just the, the two lives are so night and day. Yeah. I didn't really believe that it can be done, you know, I was like, well, we're gonna have a kid, so I guess I need to go get a normal job, you know? Um, and this whole experience has sorta just been, uh, proving to myself, I guess, that, that we can do it, you know, and, and I could follow my dreams, but I'll also try to be the best dad I can be. Yeah. It's been harder than you thought it would be. I mean, it's been difficult, but, uh, just an adjustment period. It is what it, I think just being a dad is difficult, you know? I'm sure you guys know. So I, I'd say I definitely have it easier than some people I'm sure. But, um, yeah, everyone struggles,
Palmer: 00:57:18 normal becomes whatever you choose to make it. Right. Right. So there's, there's always that moment of that freak out, that intensity of like, what are we going to do? How am I going to do this? You go to the extremes, but then it just becomes, I mean there's, there's, there's comfort in the chaos it feels like at times, you know, cause you know, it's going to be that way.
Michael: 00:57:39 And there's fear from the unknown, from unknown, especially as a freaking parent. I mean, there's so many scaring variables out there. Um, and then your professional track that takes, like, that's a whole another variable of Jesus. How do you blending those two worlds on top of every variable that I experienced as a brand new dad? Um, just it's certainly a lot,
Bozzy: 00:58:00 you know, Matdi, Madi's been my rock and this, you know, I could've, could've done it without her, you know, so she was the one who, who convinced me. She was like, well, you can, you can make this work. You know, is there a, this is
Palmer: 00:58:14 random, but I'm thinking about it as we're talking. Is there like a network of like touring musicians that are like, or did you, were you able to peg in with like other dads that you know in your world?
Bozzy: 00:58:25 Like, did you have that support system in that world at all? Like do musicians, [inaudible] members? I'm sure that, I'm sure that work is there. Um, and I'm sure I will get involved in that in Nashville. Um, but at least locally, no, I mean our family and friend groups, um, we're support. Yeah. That, that's what made it possible. But no sort of external network group that I'm a part of.
Palmer: 00:58:57 Do you, um, do you ever listen to Lao love it at all or know any of his stuff at all? [inaudible] okay, so he's all of, it's been around for like forever. I mean he's 60 something. Um, is that it? Yeah, but he's, I mean I think he's like, some of his original albums came out in like early eighties or something. I may be misquoting that, but I mean dude's been around for a long time. Um, and he, he's been in Knoxville the last three years and two years ago we saw him at the Tennessee theater, which you guys sold out last time you were in Knoxville. It was a cool spot. That's a great spot, isn't it? Yeah. It was really funny listening to him because he was playing with John Hyatt and John Hyatt said something about, Oh, well you're going to be a first time dad here in the next couple of weeks or whatever. And I'm thinking, this is a guy who's been a very successful touring musician for 20 30 was getting ready to hit that role. Of like, now I'm a dad and doing it. And it's like, that was crazy to think about that, you know, you guys hadn't been doing it all that long and it was like on the reverse. Yeah. So it's crazy to think through what that must look like being when that's all you've known, that's all. You all of a sudden be like, Oh wow, I've got a kid now.
Bozzy: 01:00:13 I had no idea what I was doing on the other aspects. So yeah. But that is really crazy to think about. Yeah. Kind of learning all of it together once for you guys versus being so well rooted in it.
Michael: 01:00:24 So if RKS never happened, what would you have been or, or like your fear of? I got it. Quit the band. I got to go get a normal job. What does, like what does that mean for you?
Bozzy: 01:00:36 Honestly, hard to tell. They really, I mean, I, criagslist listings, just trying to try to find something. Oh man, I'm not above it. You know, you got, you got bills to pay. Um, I dunno. It's, it's honestly hard to tell. I would hopefully have found a job, no problem. Found gainful employment. Right. It means, honestly, I don't really know. You know, like I didn't really have a plan, so, uh, I'm just, I'm just glad I had Madi there to be like, no, just stick with this. It's, it's working out, you know, don't, so yeah,
Palmer: 01:01:16 we, uh, I think we did that very early on in the show of thinking Mike's wife Courtney and my wife Michelle for, you know, not only making us dads, but the support in the process. I mean, it's, I don't, I don't know how single parents do it. I mean, it's amazing to me that you need that other person in your life. That support is so important on so many levels. It really, it really is. I mean, it's, it's crazy how so? Kudos kudos to you Madi, Good job. Good. Um, Indie Rose's pretty freaking sweet too. She's fantastic.
Michael: 01:01:52 I need you to know on behalf of my daughter, every single day at the end, she's in a day school, four years old, every single day. Whenever we get in the car, she asked, daddy, can you put Heart on? We listen to Heart every single day and I kid you not. And, and yes, t.
Bozzy: 01:02:08 hats Indie's favorite RKS song too.
Michael: 01:02:11 And before that came out it was Mr Redundant. So like those two songs are just all the time. We have dance parties, my house daily no matter what. And those two are like the major, major, major, top two songs that we play. And my daughter just loves singing them from the top of her lungs. So, um,
Bozzy: 01:02:30 that's awesome.
Michael: 01:02:31 Credibly meaningful music, man. Every single thing that I'm stoked for you and to fanboy out, like you guys do such meaningful music across the board. You guys are not song musicians. You guys are album musicians. Every single damn thing that you guys pump out is just, it's good, impactful. It is impactful. It's, I don't often want to sit down and listen to albums, but you guys are those people. So, um, I looked forward to every single thing that you guys do in the future and you guys will be around til the year 3000. That seems far away.
Bozzy: 01:03:07 It does seem like a lot. It seems like that was me trying to hold that back the whole time. But uh, here at the end, end of the end of the dialogue, I embrace it. That was, that was very nice.
Michael: 01:03:18 Well thanks man. I thank you for what you guys do. Thank you. You're meaningful to a lot of people. Um, and it's, uh, you're, you're a special group of people.
Bozzy: 01:03:26 I appreciate that.
Palmer: 01:03:27 Thanks for the music. Thanks for taking the time to all of you guys for being here, for coming in and hanging with us. Um, thanks again to The Grind Cafe for letting us set up here in Morganton, North Carolina. This is a great spot. We are super thankful to them as well.
Michael: 01:03:44 Um, Bozzy thanks man.
Palmer: 01:03:47 Yeah, thank you.
Michael: 01:03:47 Thanks for the time. Thanks for being here and thanks for sitting down and talking with us and sharing your story.
Bozzy: 01:03:53 Of course. It was a pleasure.
Palmer: 01:03:54 Indie Rose.
01:03:56 Yeah. Yeah.
Michael: 01:04:00 Dude. What a fantastic interview. Yeah, it really was solid individual and again, Bozzy thank you, Madi thank you, Indie Rose thank you your time, you guys. Uh, you guys are a brilliant family unit and, uh, looking forward to, to you guys being able to grow up with your daughter. Yeah, that'd be cool. That'll be cool. Cool.
Palmer: 01:04:23 Um, all right, well, we do have some exciting news to continue share. We have our live recording that we're doing at Three Rivers Anglers in Knoxville on Wednesday, December 4th in front of an audience in front of an audience. Do you have to buy tickets to this? No. You don't have to buy tickets as it is. And we're even providing pizza and beverages. Oh yeah. Big time. Wake. Dad. Drink. Repeat. Dollars Wednesday, December 4th. Where is this? Three Rivers Anglers in Knoxville, Tennessee. 8:00 PM. But those details don't matter because you can get on our Facebook and find the event or you can get through Instagram to there as well. So, um, we hope that those in the area can join us. We're really excited about it. We're going to be sitting down with, um, Allen Gillespie, the owner of three RA to talk about being a dad and kids and hobbies, and it's going to be a lot of fun. Um, while you're our social platforms, be sure to subscribe to the podcast. Be sure to rate and review us. And you can also sign up for our weekly newsletter there. Uh, we do put out some information on there that we don't give you guys through here, so be sure to get on there. And man, I guess that's it.
Michael: 01:05:34 Love it. We hope you enjoyed this week's episode. If you didn't, you're an asshole and always remember to Wake. Dad. Drink. Repeat. Cheers guys. Cheers folks.
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